Saturday, February 19, 2011

Difference of Fermented Wine And Unfermented Wine


One day my husband was telling me that he got annoyed  to one of his colleagues who had always questioned him for not drinking wine or liquor.  In fact, that colleague gave him a text in the Bible citing that even Apostle Paul was telling Timothy to drink a little wine for his stomach pain. I understood that my husband was confiding to me so that I can give explanation to that specific verse in the Bible.  I told him  that  there are two kinds of  wine as far as I know. That is Fermented wine and  the Unfermented Wine. After that discussion, my husband turned on the computer and  made a research for that  topic.  For that reason I thought of sharing with you about these two kinds of beverage that  are considered "wine"  but entirely suggest a different meaning and effects.

Fermented Wine

A fermented wine is the kind of wine that undergo  process or method that lasts for  days and years.  A simple extract juice of grape can turn into alcoholic beverage through the process  called fermentation.  Throughout the fermentation yeast and sugars in the juice interact with each other  to produce ethanol which generally identified as ethyl alcohol, and carbon dioxide as a by-product. There are 3  general  classifications of Alcoholic beverage namely: beers, wines and spirits.  

 According to Dr. Sidney Cohen, a drug abuse expert,  alcohol is "the most dangerous drug on earth" .  

Unfermented Wine

This kind of beverage refers simply to any juice extracted from  fruits and vegetables.  For all we know, we can make apple juice by extracting it and definitely  a very healthy beverage which is rich in  Vitamin C.  Take note, Natural Medicine today, prescribe pure extracted  juice from fruits and vegetables for alternative medication.

Personally, I believe that the wine that is cited in the Bible is totally the  unfermented wine. When Jesus made a wine in His first miracle during the wedding in Cana, definitely,  it was not the kind of wine that is fermented.
Proverbs 20:1

Trivia:  You can find more Vitamin C in the apple skin.  
 


18 comments:

  1. I agree 😊Jesus did not make fermented wine at the wedding. Jesus is God, He is the word and does not contradict Himself. Proverbs 20.1.kjv Wine is a mocker, strong drink is raging: and whosoever is deceived thereby is not wise.

    Jesus said we ought to be "sober & vigilant" how can we do that being under the influence of fermented wine? We all know the effects of alcohol consumption- drunkeness.
    The difference is clear in the two scriptures.

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    1. I believe the wine was fermented because it wouldn't have been that great of a miracle if he would have just turned water into grape juice but the miracle of turning water into wine was because it was fermented instantly as opposed to taking years to ferment. Another reason it was fermented was to continue to marriage festival and keep everyone in a joyful spirit. Grape juice wouldn't have had any impact on the marriage festival at all. The sin is the abuse of fermented wine , just like the abuse of eating is glutton. A drunkard and a glutton is sinful to God but not someone who has self control and eats and drinks moderately exercising self control.

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    3. Jesus is MOT God. Jesus is the son of God.

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    4. Jesus is NOT God. Jesus is the son of God.

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    5. Anais Joy - John 1:1 says that “the Word was God.” John 1:14 says that “And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us” -- for more read http://bibleprobe.com/jesus-is-God.htm

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  2. For you clear insight,i like to once and for ever abolish your idea about the verses mentioned in the bible about wine that was quoted by paul.When ever you see wine in the bible,it is accompanied by bread(Bread typifies Lord's body that has been made out of form at the calvary and wine typifies his pure divine sinless blood).And,what paul was saying is that taking wine(remebering Jesus blood sacrifice ,1Chorinthian 11:25)is to recall that he shed his blood for you and by taking the wine you are declaring his health and forgiveness of sins.The wine that typifies His blood is for us to consume to remember that we are forgiven,made righteous,pure,holy,redeemed from every curse not by our efforts but by His blood.So,take wine in the manner Jesus said us to take and not as general.it is a divine format to health.

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  3. The Word of God never talks against wine. As a matter of fact , the drinking of wine and strong drink is commanded in Deut.14 and 12. The Bible however does repeatedly warn against misuse. Thus God does not contradict Himself. In Numbers it is stated that he who does not drink wine is accordingly not allowed to enjoy any fruit of the vine, which there is stated as not even grapes, fruit juice or raisins! More clearer than that you cannot be. Scholars who attempt to justify wine by twisting it to unfermented "wine", must know that "unfermented" is not even a proper English word, and secondly the same word for wine is used throughout the Bible when reference is made of wine. If so, then how can one become drunk/intoxicated/act like a fool, if it was not wine being fermented from grapes containing alcohol? No, rest assured, wine is wine and grape juice is grape juice. The drive to veer people away from liquor, with all its drawbacks, is flawed. Jesus says that he who does partake in His blood ,( through drinking wine as symbolic of His blood), has no life in them self. Thus those who so eagerly preach against wine must know that they (may) preach something that is keeping others from having communion with God and Jesus Christ - something I don't want to be guilty of.

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  4. The Word of God never talks against wine. As a matter of fact , the drinking of wine and strong drink is commanded in Deut.14 and 12. The Bible however does repeatedly warn against misuse. Thus God does not contradict Himself. In Numbers it is stated that he who does not drink wine is accordingly not allowed to enjoy any fruit of the vine, which there is stated as not even grapes, fruit juice or raisins! More clearer than that you cannot be. Scholars who attempt to justify wine by twisting it to unfermented "wine", must know that "unfermented" is not even a proper English word, and secondly the same word for wine is used throughout the Bible when reference is made of wine. If so, then how can one become drunk/intoxicated/act like a fool, if it was not wine being fermented from grapes containing alcohol? No, rest assured, wine is wine and grape juice is grape juice. The drive to veer people away from liquor, with all its drawbacks, is flawed. Jesus says that he who does partake in His blood ,( through drinking wine as symbolic of His blood), has no life in them self. Thus those who so eagerly preach against wine must know that they (may) preach something that is keeping others from having communion with God and Jesus Christ - something I don't want to be guilty of.

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    1. I think you need to read that again. it talks about vultures.Leviticus 10:9. not all wine in the Bible is fermented look it up.

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    2. If you read the whole chapter it starts off with God burning Aaron's sons alive because they offered incense to him when he told them not to.

      I've always had the impression that he's way nicer than that.

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  5. Yes, the wine that Jesus made could have been the type we’re used to. That type uses yeast to convert grape juice into, so called, wine containing alcohol. However, it does raise some suspicion as to why the bible ties the use of yeast with sin:
    1 Corinthians 5:6 Don’t you know that a little yeast leavens the whole batch of dough? 7 Get rid of the old yeast, so that you may be a new unleavened batch—as you really are. 8 Therefore let us keep the Festival, not with the old bread leavened with malice and wickedness, but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth.
    I’m curious, does the bible ever label any drink or use the term grape juice? From Bro. John Slack

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  6. I don't understand why a christian would want to drink any alcohol. when you get saved you put off the old person and you do not want to do the things you used to do. I think Christians that want to drink anyway, that gives them the license to drink. they twist what the Bible says so they can. they need to really repent.
    Marsha smith

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  7. guys, everyone knows that Wine is an alcoholic drink!
    until they started to make non alcoholic wine was when we can say fermented and non fermented wine.

    everyone knows an alcoholic drink is called wine, OR wine is an alcoholic drink.
    so what do you call a wine without alcohol? it is NOT called wine! They call it grape juice.
    So when bible talks about unfermented wine, did it say wine or grape juice?
    if it says wine, then it means alcoholic!

    it's like someone saying the gospel is the good news.
    now if someone is preaching gospel with bad news, then it is NOT called gospel!

    Christians who have in their mentality that wine is not good are the ones who manipulate bible and say God does not support wine.
    Jesus turned the water into wine aka fermented wine!
    if He turned water into non fermented wine, then what is it called?
    even the

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    1. In very early centuries, people were already accustomed to pressing out the juice of grapes for immediate consumption. We can see this in GENESIS 40:11: ""And Pharaoh's cup was in my hand: and I took the grapes, and pressed them into Pharaoh's cup, and I gave the cup into Pharaoh's hand.""

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  8. https://www.cai.org/bible-studies/what-does-bible-say-about-alcohol

    Wine in the New Testament

    In the New Testament, references to what are clearly intoxicating beverages, occur for the most part in connection with those groups of people who had been brought into the Christian faith in Asia-Minor, Greece and Rome. This was at a time when morals were low and indulgence in alcoholic drinks excessive. In the Gospels there are only two definite allusions to intoxicating beverage. The first is surely significant. It occurs in the opening chapter of the Gospel of Luke, in the announcement made to Zacharias of the forthcoming birth of the herald of the Messiah.

    ""For he shall be great in the sight of the Lord, and shall drink neither wine nor strong drink; and he shall be filled with the Holy Ghost ..." "LUKE 1:15

    References in the Epistles to drunkenness are numerous and explicit. Paul was the Apostle to the Gentiles and he was frequently confronted with excessive drinking even within the young Christian congregations where the converts were either Jews living in non-Jewish environments, or Gentiles brought in from paganism with their heathen ways of life.

    On a number of occasions Paul had to rebuke his listeners in no uncertain terms: ""Let us walk honestly ... not in rioting and drunkenness"" (ROMANS 13:13). He warned that among the offences which will exclude men from the Kingdom of God is drunkenness: ""Be not deceived ... nor drunkards ... shall inherit the kingdom of God"" (1 CORINTHIANS 6:9-10). Again he pointed out the right course to the Ephesians, ""And be not drunk with wine, wherein is excess; but be filled with the Spirit ..."" (EPHESIANS 5:18). The Galatians, too, needed the warning that those who indulge in ""drunkenness, revellings, and such like ... shall not inherit the kingdom of God"" (GALATIANS 5:21).

    A Little Wine for your Stomach's Sake

    ""Drink no longer water, but use a little wine for thy stomach's sake and thine often infirmities."" 1 TIMOTHY 5:23

    The word used here in the original Greek text is "oinos" and can mean fermented or unfermented grape juice.

    The pain relieving properties of grape juice were a well known fact in those days in Palestine, and it was also used to relieve stomach problems. For this reason, Paul recommended the use of grape juice to Timothy. Athenaeus (280 A.D.) supplies the information that there was a "wine" for stomach complaints. He gives the recipe - "Let him take gleukos either mixed with water or warmed, especially that called "protropos", as being very good for the stomach." This is also backed up by numerous medical discoveries that alcohol actually prolongs stomach problems. Although alcohol provides calories, it does not contain protein, minerals or vitamins and can cause serious damage to the important tissues of the brain, liver and other organs of the body.
    Taking all the assertions of the Bible on "alcohol" into consideration, we realise that God also disapproves of "moderate" drinking, to save His people from destructive influences.

    It is interesting to see that the newest medical discoveries are exactly in accordance with the Bible:

    "Being stone-drunk permanently destroys up to 7 million cells of an adult's brain."

    Prof. Dr. Gustav Schimert, (Cardiology Magazine, 1984)

    "Alcohol always destroys brain cells - even when taken in small amounts."

    Dr. Med. A. Sequeira, (Med. News Magazine, 1984)

    ""Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you? If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are."" 1 CORINTHIANS 3:16-17

    I REST MY CASE!!!

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